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Post by Shani on Mar 26, 2010 19:50:42 GMT -5
Hello everyone!  I'd like to have an FC and/or a MUCKwide meeting soonish. I know that we're all in different time zones and am hoping that by planning now we'll be able to find a time that hopefully everyone will be happy with. The FC meeting is set for Tuesday April 6th 8pm EDTThe MUCKwide meeting is canceled |
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Post by Kibibi on Mar 26, 2010 22:46:20 GMT -5
April 6th wouldn't work for me (that's during my upcoming vacation), but since my FC is Rafiki I doubt I'll really be needed - I'm guessing that most of what needs to be discussed among the FCs are plotholes and family trees and such: I'm sure I have an opinion on all that, but none of it will likely effect Rafiki much. I'd just need to know what all gets decided. April 11th should be good for me though; I should be back from my vacation by then.
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Post by Shani on Mar 27, 2010 19:47:09 GMT -5
Anyone who plays an FC that won't be able to make the FC meeting, if you want I can log the meeting for you, just let me know. And of course any questions and/or concerns can be discussed at any time. I'm always around.. somewhere. I try to be anyways. |
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Post by Sinyaa | Zira on Apr 7, 2010 6:24:57 GMT -5
Okay, since I wasn't at the meeting proper, I've read over the log and here are my belated 2.5 cents on the matters relevant to me and mine, since there was a lot of discussion about Zira and her cubs: I firmly believe that Kovu and Vitani are from the same litter -- just because Kovu wasn't in the deleted TLK2 scene with Nuka and Vitani running up to Zira about Kiara doesn't necessarily mean he's younger than Vitani...he may have just been out of the scene being trained or spoiled or otherwise just simply sheltered away from the others' 'quest' into the Pridelands. As they appear to be the same age anyway, I think Kovu and Vitani should be littermates, just like Kopa and Kiara are the same age (rather than one sibling being older than the other). As for Kovu (and Vitani)'s parentage, the history behind it when I played Zira in a similar timeline before had her meeting a rogue male lion (Sharvi) as an adolescent before she met Scar, and when her cub with Scar (Nuka) turned out to be a failure, she decided to try producing an heir of her own (since I always thought her obsession with Scar was primarily driven by a lust for power more than anything else) with a stronger-built male she had known before...Sharvi. Sharvi is played by my RL mate, and the reason he hasn't been on lately is because he's currently taking classes for his Master's degree in business, but he can be prodded to connect and RP if requested when I'm online (and assuming he's not busy with studies). However, Sharvi is not exactly a 'family man' like Simba, so I doubt he'd be around all that often ICly anyway.  (Kovu's father wasn't around in the movie either, after all.) I also never saw Zira as the very maternal type, so the thoughts on having her 'adopting' Vitani from some other lioness doesn't really feel right to me...I think she's more likely just to kill both mother and cub rather than merely murder the mom and then lovingly take in someone else's random Pridelander cub as her own. >.> Of course, if everyone else prefers something different...whatever, it's just a story, even if it doesn't fit with what I've come up with Zira so far in my years RPing her. Everyone here has their own ideas about the FCs, both canon and not, so we've certainly got to come to some compromises when there's a difference in opinions. I just figured I'd pipe up about my personal preferences and ideas on a developed background for the character I'm playing. I'm certainly available for discussing and brainstorming ideas, regardless. Oh, and as for the trial RP...I don't care either way. I can RP it out (assuming the scene occurs during decent hours for me ) or we can just continue to assume it's already happened, whatever works best for everyone who'd be involved. So, yeah. |
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Post by jspd on Apr 7, 2010 6:32:15 GMT -5
As for Kovu (and Vitani)'s parentage, the history behind it when I played Zira in a similar timeline before had her meeting a rogue male lion (Sharvi) as an adolescent before she met Scar, and when her cub with Scar (Nuka) turned out to be a failure, she decided to try producing an heir of her own (since I always thought her obsession with Scar was primarily driven by a lust for power more than anything else) with a stronger-built male she had known before...Sharvi. I believe I've made it clear, to this point, that I don't really care about the minor details of Kovu's lineage. I honestly think I would choke on it if everyone insisted he's Scar's biological son (I don't remember who mentioned it, but it was said outside of the meeting), just because that could change so many aspects of the character that I thought I was applying for. That said, I believe Zira's player should have the most say in who she believes Zira would allow to impregnate her. I did not app Kovu thinking he would have a strong male presence around him anyway, because from what little I remember of TLK2 (which, okay, may not be canon, but face it: if TLK is canon, THE ENTIRE WORLD would not have been changed by the start of TLK2) there were no adult males in the Outlands. I'm not saying that, over the course of this MUCK, males could not join the outlands. Only that I don't see them starting off strong, but that's really just me, and I really don't care to quibble that much over petty details. That said, yes. Vitani, if she cares, should have some say in who her parents are. If TLK2 isn't canon, there's no reason Vitani can't just be another lioness in the outlands, albeit a very young one. Whatev.  I only think that somebody getting tiffy about the minor details of a character they aren't even playing is a little, I dunno... weird. |
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Post by maybesimba on Apr 7, 2010 7:14:31 GMT -5
I'm glad that Zira chimed in, because I really like her answer. It seems to bring a bit of clarity to the situation, and I think that it makes sense. At least it seems to be straight forward, and realistic on what Zira's motives would be ICly. Tell Sharvi I said Hi BTW, and ask him if he can do my Business Calc homework for me next year.  As far as the trial RP goes, I'd be alright in playing it out, and I was thinking about it on the way up to school today, and I think I know how Simba would react, and how he would cast his judgement upon her in exile. I think it could be built up into quite an emotional, and powerful scene if pulled off right, so maybe you and I can get togther tonight and talk about it, Zira, or perhaps tomorrow, since you're time zone is far ahead in the future than mine is. I'm Eastern, you're on.. Deutsh time? I think? |
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Post by ҉ Vitani ؋ Giza on Apr 7, 2010 13:33:57 GMT -5
So much was discussed last night during the meeting that things might've gotten out of paw at times. Vitani's parentage really isn't that important, as obviously movie-wise it was never much of anything at all. Her constant addresses to Zira as 'Mother' would definitely suggest something regarding Zira, but as far as a father: anything. From the little interaction in the past I always felt Sharvi was a self-absorbed, silent, brooding type, honestly. And any lion of his appearance and location is not likely to been too keen on affection--rather much like most lions in the wild. So lack of a father figure is fine with me. Regarding Tama and Tojo...again, things were just being thrown out there last night. My thoughts had only been the physical similarities and the plot wrinkles of Vitani being of Prideland blood and the complications of Zira's rage and jealousy. I still almost like to think that she was overcome by a fit of jealousy and killed a lioness who had an affair with Scar and took in the resulting cub. Maybe this explains Kovu...'hand picked,' or rather bred, by Scar. Well, that's going off into unnecessary discussion. Right now Vitani's father is Christopher Walken, but I ran out of letters. |
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Post by Sinyaa | Zira on Apr 7, 2010 17:32:47 GMT -5
Cool, I think we can work things out pretty well. And if we want to have a trial RP, maybe we can organize a time for that sometime?
Didn't mean to hijack this original thread, but I did want to mention that I'll be gone again this weekend, and I don't think I'll be able to make the general meeting on Sunday. So, if you think I need to be there (I'd certainly like to be, if possible), perhaps having it a day or two later might be an option? Otherwise, the only thing I really wanted to have brought up for discussion was to settle on an aging ratio for each of the stages (ie, how many months per adolescence, etc).
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Post by Shani on Apr 7, 2010 19:25:18 GMT -5
The general meeting can be changed to Tuesday, if there's a better chance of everyone coming. As for the parentage of Kovu and Vitani, it's whatever Zira, Kovu and Vitani decides to do. Perhaps when it's all figured out, they'll let us know. I have an idea for how long each stage of aging should be. Or should I wait for the GM? |
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Post by Kopa on Apr 7, 2010 20:46:41 GMT -5
The general meeting can be changed to Tuesday, if there's a better chance of everyone coming. As for the parentage of Kovu and Vitani, it's whatever Zira, Kovu and Vitani decides to do. Perhaps when it's all figured out, they'll let us know. I have an idea for how long each stage of aging should be. Or should I wait for the GM? Weren't we going with 3 months Cub, 3 Months Juve, 6 Months Adol? |
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Post by jspd on Apr 7, 2010 20:48:42 GMT -5
I thought it was going to be something closer to 12 months adolescent. At least, that's what I was originally told.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 7, 2010 20:51:56 GMT -5
I thought it was going to be something closer to 12 months adolescent. At least, that's what I was originally told. I think it was originally, last I heard that was generally decided as 'too long'. As for Vitani's parentage, I'm cool with it either way. Either option offers interesting possibilities for RP though her appearance is best explained by the Tama/Tojo thing but something like recessive genes or something like that would work just as well. It's all up to what Tani's player and Zira agree on. |
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Post by Shani on Apr 7, 2010 21:01:45 GMT -5
Originally, it was to be 3 months: Cub, 3 months: Juve., 12 months: Adol. If I recall right, it was decided to be too long of a stretch. I think 3 months as a cub, 3 months as a juve. and 6 months as an adol. is good. Certainly, if a player wants to go longer he or she may do so, but a wait of 6 months would be the least amount of time allotted before turning adult. My feeling is that some players want to hurry up and become older, while some may not be in such a hurry. With this age ratio, hopefully it would work out for all.
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Post by nuka on Apr 9, 2010 18:54:42 GMT -5
Those age ranges seem appropriate to me. 1 rl year, half as a child and half as a teen. Works for me, anyway.
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Post by Shani on Apr 9, 2010 19:44:59 GMT -5
After much consideration, since everyone seems to be on the forum, I have decided to forgo the MUCKwide meeting. Instead, we will have the meeting here, on the forum. In this way, I hope that all players will be able to read at their own pace and chime in with their own thoughts, ideas and what have yous. Plus, given the time zone differences, I think this will work much better.
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(Kovu's father wasn't around in the movie either, after all.)
I only think that somebody getting tiffy about the minor details of a character they aren't even playing is a little, I dunno... weird.
