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Post by Shani on Apr 9, 2010 21:01:55 GMT -5
Greetings! This is the place where we will discuss everything that would have been talked about at the onMU meeting. Only here, everyone can join in. For those of you who are new to the MUCK, our theme follows the ending of TLK, and while we do have the characters from TLK1 and TLK2, they may not be the same FCs you know and love. The age ratio for the players of cubs, pups and other young has been a big issue of talk. The matter was discussed at the feature character meeting and again in the meetings thread and the ratio will be the following: 3 months as a cub: In RL would be equal to newborn to roughly 7 years of age. 3 months as a juvenile: In RL would be equal to roughly 8 to 12 years of age. 6 months as an adolescent: In RL would be equal to roughly 13 to 20 years of age. After a RL year of playing your character may become an adult. You will not be forced to age to adult, if you wish to remain an adolescent, you may do so for however long you wish. 6 months will be the least amount of time required before a character may become an adult. The MUCK has yet to officially open and much discussion about what the first official scene will be was another hot topic during the FC meet. The first idea and the one easiest to have done is Rafiki presenting Kopa to the denizens of the Pridelands as the new heir to the kingdom. Chaka, the firstborn son and heir of Simba and Nala was killed by Zira. She was exiled for her crime and took her cubs and those loyal to her and Scar with her to the Outlands. The second idea is much harder to do, as it details the discovery of Chaka's death and subsequent capture, trial and exile of Zira. Okie, I may have left out a few things, but will add them later when I can find them. I hope everyone will participate to make our MUCK great.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 10, 2010 9:20:17 GMT -5
I like the way that the ages have been set up, I think that gives players the most freedom as far as aging their characters goes without making them feel trapped in a seemingly endless waiting period while also giving those that don't want to grow up too quickly the freedom to do so.
As far as opening the MUCK goes, I'm leaning towards the Rafiki presentation bit. I think Rafiki's player has done and excellent job of working out the rituals and all of that and it gives us an opening that fits with the theme of the movies in a lot of ways. Also, doing the trial is a lot harder to do and may be a bit hard emotionally on some players. It also requires a great deal of time-juggling to get everyone required on at the same time so I think it should be relegated to form RP or maybe a small background story written and posted up on the forums by those interested.
I know that means some of the RP that was planned out with the trial won't happen on the MUCK but that doesn't mean it -didn't- happen as background. I just feel that it's best to open up with something a bit easier to do than to try some giant RP that might delay things simply by having tons of people with varying times trying to find a time when they can all be on for it.
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Post by Asante on Apr 10, 2010 14:56:16 GMT -5
I was thinking the other day how the lions have the 'kings of the past' and stuff and was wondering if any of the other species had 'religions' of sorts or not. I have an idea for the hyenas but haven't been able to run it by the clan yet.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 10, 2010 15:03:36 GMT -5
I was thinking the other day how the lions have the 'kings of the past' and stuff and was wondering if any of the other species had 'religions' of sorts or not. I have an idea for the hyenas but haven't been able to run it by the clan yet. Kibibi and Yaro have worked out fairly complex societies and legends for their respective species. I don't see why hyenas wouldn't have something as well. I think Shenzi was talking about coming up with some kind of hyena culture and religion so you might want to talk with her concerning that, Asante.
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Post by Asante on Apr 10, 2010 15:25:00 GMT -5
I plan to and she said she may make a thead on it for the hyenas but thought I'd throw it out since I'm on and I don't think she'll be on til much later.
So what all topics are we discussing on here?
Only ones I had so far have been said.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 10, 2010 16:17:24 GMT -5
I plan to and she said she may make a thead on it for the hyenas but thought I'd throw it out since I'm on and I don't think she'll be on til much later. So what all topics are we discussing on here? Only ones I had so far have been said. Generally anything that anyone is concerned or wondering about concerning the MUCK. One of the main topics right now is what scene do we want to officially open with, Shani posted the two main suggestions a few posts up.
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Post by Shenzi on Apr 10, 2010 17:16:33 GMT -5
Well, I'm obviously definitely leaning toward the trial RP. It doesn't have to be on the MUCK, it could be on the forum. I just don't see any way that the hyenas could be included in a lion ceremony thing, and the trial was kind of a win-win-win for everyone. And it'd be pretty lame to not include all the groups in an opening scene.
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Post by Shani on Apr 10, 2010 20:58:37 GMT -5
Asante: Everything is open for discussion in this thread. Feel free to let loose, but keep it rated G.
Shenzi: As I said I'm all for doing the trial RP, as is Kopa.. It might even work better doing it on the forum. We'll need to all get together and try to figure how how to proceed.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 10, 2010 21:08:19 GMT -5
Asante: Everything is open for discussion in this thread. Feel free to let loose, but keep it rated G. Shenzi: As I said I'm all for doing the trial RP, as is Kopa.. It might even work better doing it on the forum. We'll need to all get together and try to figure how how to proceed. If we're going to do the trial RP, I do like the idea for doing it the forum. I know Shenzi wants to do it because it'd get everyone involved and I'm all for that. It's just that the trial would be a HUGE production to get done on the MUCK with everybody having different times they're on and how long they're able to RP. It could take a long time to find a time when everyone or even most of the players needed could be on at once and even then it might be paused and stretched out over weeks just because of conflicting schedules.
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Post by Shenzi on Apr 10, 2010 21:55:22 GMT -5
@ Kopa and Nala: I'd have no problem doing it on the forum. It's definitely easiest that way, I was just saying that I still want to do that.
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Post by Shani on Apr 11, 2010 20:58:15 GMT -5
We should also decide on a day for the MUCK to officially open. As well as beginning the opening scene. Which will be Rafiki presenting Kopa as the new heir.
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Post by Kibibi on Apr 12, 2010 4:44:58 GMT -5
We should also decide on a day for the MUCK to officially open. As well as beginning the opening scene. Which will be Rafiki presenting Kopa as the new heir. For that scene we'd literally only need Kopa and Rafiki. Naturally we'd want to do it at a time when the maximum number of people can be present, but Kopa and Rafiki are the only characters we wouldn't be able to assume are standing around in the background somewhere not doing anything interesting if their player can't be there. My schedule is terrible for interfacing with European timezones, unfortunately, but I'm willing to do my part whenever I can be here. To greatly oversimplify my schedule, I can't do 4pm EST-8pm EST pretty much any day except Saturday (or some holidays) and those are those golden hours when it's late evening in Europe and afternoon in the US. So I recommend a Saturday because I'm usually free and clear the whole day. Or if you want to try for a different day of the week I can give you a much more specific idea of what I'd be able to do - it varies a little depending on the day of the week, though it's otherwise pretty predictable unless I've already got other plans for a particular day. As for the other scene, would any of my characters be directly involved? Naturally Rafiki and possibly Kibibi would watch the proceedings, but is anything in particular needed? I don't see how a shaman who saw nothing would help much unless someone desperately needed advice. Kibibi could provide some muscle though if that helps - she'd be interested in seeing such a trial run smoothly so she'd be happy to help if asked.
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Post by Kopa on Apr 12, 2010 8:11:43 GMT -5
Yes, someone would need to spoof Chaka. I guess I can if no one else wants to. I can spoof Chaka if we're doing the whole death scene along with the trial as a kind of background RP at some point. If we're just doing the trial itself then he isn't needed as he's already dead and probably been given a funeral of some sort by Rafiki. I'm not sure if Rafiki will be needed for the other scene or not. If we're doing the whole death RP in it I don't know if he'd be summoned or not for some kind of funeral or if we'd just off-screen something like that and move straight to the trial. If we're having Chaka killed really quick and painless like a snapped neck or something I don't think Rafiki needs to show up to let anybody know there's nothing he can do. I don't know what part he'd play in the trial. I doubt Kopa will be doing much during it and will mainly be in the background and broken to pieces emotionally so you could always say that Rafiki is off-screen doing what he can to comfort him? As far as Kibibi goes, I'm sure that if Zira escaped and was being hunted that she'd be one of those that were brought in to try and corner her and bring her back for trial. I'm not sure we ever decided exactly who cornered Zira and forced her back, the lionesses were one thing that was considered and I think Shenzi tossed out the idea of the hyenas doing it just so they could have one more thing that the Pridelanders 'owe' them and another thing for Zira to hate them over but I might have misheard. I figure that all the important group leaders in the Pridelands would be at the trial, myself, and that they'd be expected to offer their own advice and suggestions to Simba. I figure it'd look something like an even angrier 'One of Us' scene. None of these characters need to be played, though, but if they are they that's a reason for them to be there if only as background. Kibibi, being the matriarch of the elephants would probably be there in some fashion, we'd probably also have some representative of the meerkats like Yaro and various other not on-screen group leaders for birds, jackals, giraffes, zebra, etc.
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Post by Sinyaa | Zira on Apr 12, 2010 10:01:17 GMT -5
Yeah, we don't need Chaka for the trial scene, do we? I think it was decided that he would be dead by the time the MUCK setting started, with the trial being the first event...so even if we're backdating it, I don't see a need to actually do the murder scene itself -- just the trial after Chaka was found dead would be sufficient, no?
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Post by Kopa on Apr 12, 2010 10:10:00 GMT -5
Yeah, we don't need Chaka for the trial scene, do we? I think it was decided that he would be dead by the time the MUCK setting started, with the trial being the first event...so even if we're backdating it, I don't see a need to actually do the murder scene itself -- just the trial after Chaka was found dead would be sufficient, no? I agree, I don't think some players want to do something as emotionally involved as a death scene so it's best to assume that it had already happened and we just skip right to the trial.
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